6.3e Warning!

DirecTV is pushing out 6.3e for all Series 2 units (SD and HD). If your TiVo(s) is/are not hacked, read no further.

For those with hacked SD units, you will lose MRV if you update, as it has been removed from 6.3e. 

For hacked HD units, do not run the HMO/HME patches for 6.3-6.3d listed elsewhere on this site; your TiVo will not boot if you do so. I'll post the updated patches in the near future.

Discussion:

Vicki Schmitz on August 14, 2007 11:01 AM

Thanks for the heads up, Yog!

 

Vic 

Daffsters on August 15, 2007 10:13 AM

Ditto.  Thanks for the heads up since I noticed the 6.3e files on my HR10-250 last night, but not the 6.3d files.  I'm still on 6.3c and will stay there until further notice.

 Mike

RockRatt on August 18, 2007 6:33 AM

Thanks Yog for the heads up,

I just checked a few of my DirecTivo's using gotomydvr and sure enough all three have the 6.3e software there. Does any what else this is changing? Do we need to worry about other issues too?

 I have a weird story that maybe comes with this. I just recently upgraded one of my DirecTivo's to a larger hard drive. Once it was completed and seemed to be working I had to call DirecTV due to my unit now saying an error message with regards to call customer service to get my box back on my account. After a few minutes, and probably a bad idea on my part I let them know that I had to upgrade on of my hard drives since it was failing. The lady put me on hold and then came back and said that she was going to have to note this D Tivo unit # down and they would not provide any support for it any longer. Anyone have this kind of issue with DirecTV before. Over the past couple of years when I had to talk to them it did not seem like a big deal.. Any thoughts??

GregW on August 21, 2007 9:04 PM

I notice in the last TOS that was sent out, there is some pretty strict language regarding the software on the DVRs.  It is "forbidden" to alter the software.   Don't know if those terms existed before, but I suppose it is in there for cya purposes.

gbell57 on August 23, 2007 8:26 AM

I sliced to 6.3e from 6.3a last night. I got the new patches and all worked as expected (sd model 151). The problem I see is all channels are artifacting / blotching as if reception is poor. I have 3 more dtivos on my net that are working great. Signal strength is in the 90's on this unit. While the artifacting / blotching occurs message displays on and off thar no signal is being receved on X tuner... Any ideas?

Jon J on September 4, 2007 3:16 PM

I can't prove a connection, but my unmodified HR10-250 became very unstable after 6.3e downloaded and I tuned to one particular local OTA station.  Freezes, unresponsive remote, spontaneous reboots, etc.

I stopped tuning that particular station and have had no problems since.

Now, where did I put my aluminum hat?  Wink

rolande on September 19, 2007 9:23 PM

I have a HR10-250 hacked with ptvnet and on 6.3d with no phone line connected.  Will I still get the 6.3.e update?  I do not want to lose my hacks. 

BruceS on September 22, 2007 4:01 PM

As long as no phone line is connected, your box will not update, Unless, of course, you do it yourself using the Slicer.

Daffsters on October 9, 2007 8:26 PM

Any idea when the patches/hacks for 6.3e will be available?  I'm still on 6.3c on my HR10-250, but it's been locking up during recording more frequently as of late.  I have the 6.3e update on the system, but it is not installed pending the posting of the patches.

Yog-Sothoth on October 9, 2007 8:28 PM
Daffsters on October 9, 2007 8:31 PM

Thanks, Yog-Sothoth!

dbletn on November 4, 2007 6:59 PM

Jon J said: I can't prove a connection, but my unmodified HR10-250 became very unstable after 6.3e downloaded and I tuned to one particular local OTA station.  Freezes, unresponsive remote, spontaneous reboots, etc. I stopped tuning that particular station and have had no problems since. Now, where did I put my aluminum hat?  Wink
Jon J said: I can't prove a connection, but my unmodified HR10-250 became very unstable after 6.3e downloaded and I tuned to one particular local OTA station.  Freezes, unresponsive remote, spontaneous reboots, etc. I stopped tuning that particular station and have had no problems since. Now, where did I put my aluminum hat?  Wink

My HR10-250 has become very unstable as well, probably for the last couple months.  It reboots pretty much every day, sometimes multiple times a day.  It just rebooted twice in about a half hour.  I originally used instantcake with 3.1.5f, then upgraded to 6.3b, and I've been running that for quite a long time without any problems, until now.  Anybody have any idea what might be causing this?  Could it really be related to the 6.3e slices?  Would it help to just upgrade to 6.3e?  Would it help to delete the 6.3e slices?  Hope somebody has some ideas on this, it is getting pretty annoying. :(

Yog-Sothoth on November 4, 2007 7:53 PM

Due to the flipping of boot partitions after TiVo software updates, bad areas of a hard disk can be exposed.

dbletn on November 4, 2007 9:28 PM

Yog-Sothoth said: Due to the flipping of boot partitions after TiVo software updates, bad areas of a hard disk can be exposed.
Yog-Sothoth said: Due to the flipping of boot partitions after TiVo software updates, bad areas of a hard disk can be exposed.

But I have not actually installed 6.3e, I'm still running 6.3b.  I just have the slices on my tivo's disk. 

StealthMDX on November 4, 2007 9:47 PM

I have the same problem .I have an HR10-250 running version 6.3c-01-2-357 for a few months & over the past month or so it have been rebooting more & more latey, No joke like 3 times in one hour usually always when it iis recording. I just checked, I have the 6.3e-01-2-357 dated 8/11/07 in my SwSystem folder waiting to be sliced. The date of 8/11/07 was about the same time my tivo started having random reboots. I guess I will run the update & see what happens. If it still sux & reboots so often, then I will probably try a reformat of the drive & load on the most recent instantcake version out there. Any other ideas?

Kim on November 5, 2007 12:24 AM

I've been experiencing the same problem.  I have an HR10-250 updated with 6.3c PTVNet.  It's been running great (not a single reboot) for almost a year.  Starting a few weeks ago I've been getting multiple reboots per day.  I assumed it was a bad hard drive so I purchased a brand new drive and formated with PTVNet; installed it in the HR10-250 but I continued to get reboots even with the new drive.  At that point I assumed the motherboard was going bad ... but as a test I replaced the new drive with the original drive that came with the HR10-250 ... and viola!  No reboots. 

So either I had a bad drive and purchased a new bad drive (not very probable) or D* figured out a method to toast ptvnet.  Nothing proven; and I'm certainly open to suggestions as to what's going on here.  Seems fishy tho.

Thanks!

Daffsters on November 5, 2007 8:14 AM

My HR10-250 was very stable on 3.1.5f and 6.3a, but starting with 6.3c and now 6.3e, it seems to lock up almost once a day.  This requires a hard reboot by unplugging the power cord in order to recover.  I noticed that it happens usually when I'm recording OTA programs so I've removed most of those Season Passes to see if it will resolve the problem.  This is acceptable since I ordered a new HR21-700 for the Family Room and moved the HR10-250 to the Master Bedroom.  DIRECTV mentioned to me that the MPEG-2 HD channel broadcasts will stop on Dec. 15, 2007.

I started with Instant Cake and PTVNet on 3.1.5f and then used Slicer to upgrade to 6.3a, 6.3c and 6.3e.

StealthMDX on November 5, 2007 8:32 AM

StealthMDX said: I have the same problem .I have an HR10-250 running version 6.3c-01-2-357 for a few months & over the past month or so it have been rebooting more & more latey, No joke like 3 times in one hour usually always when it iis recording. I just checked, I have the 6.3e-01-2-357 dated 8/11/07 in my SwSystem folder waiting to be sliced. The date of 8/11/07 was about the same time my tivo started having random reboots. I guess I will run the update & see what happens. If it still sux & reboots so often, then I will probably try a reformat of the drive & load on the most recent instantcake version out there. Any other ideas?
I've sliced to 6.3e and of course the network no longer works. I took out the drive & ran the PTVnetHD6.3 on it but the usb is still not lighting up. It is a Linksys USB200m Ver2 and was working before. Is it possible that it is no longer supported or that the PTVnet did not actually do anything?

spaldingclan on November 5, 2007 9:27 PM

I'm having the exact problem...lost network access after the 6.3e ptvnet and instant cake 6.3e upgrade.....used to work.

dbletn on November 6, 2007 8:41 AM

I ended up doing a complete reinstall with instantcake 6.3e and ptvnet 6.3x.  My first try, the tivo would not boot properly.  The serial port output would show it starting to boot, and then it would just turn into garbage output.  Tried the reinstall a second time, and everything is up and running fine now, including network access.  I also upgraded TWP to 2.1.0, and that also works fine.  I cannot get hackman to work properly, though (all I ever use it for is to enable the 30-second skip hack at bootup, but that is not working).

An observation about the frequent reboots -  I noticed (before I did the re-install) that when I went to the 'phone settings' menu screen, it was giving a message that said something like 'this option is not available until a pending software update is completed, please try again tomorrow morning'.  I'm not sure how relevant this is, but seems like it might be related to the reboots. 

StealthMDX on November 6, 2007 10:46 AM

Well after having no luck at all, I decided to wipe out my HR10-250 & reload it with the 3.1.5f Instantcake & PTVnet I had purchased last year. Seems to be ok, however I am not able to do a restore of my Season Pass that I created with 6.3c. On another note, I deceided to take the plunge & upgrade to the new HD DVR DirecTV is offering. They initially tried to tell me it was: $299 for the HD DVR + 5NLB Dish $19.95 shipping. $318.95 total Since my 2 yr contract was up in a few days, I told themmy cable company is offering me a $300 credit to turn in my dish, they then said that they could give me a rebate for $99 which would make it a total of $219.95. I told them I would call them back & gave me a PIN to use. I called back 5 minutes later & got someone else, gave my PIN and then I was offered a better deal: $99 for the HD DVR & 5NLB Dish $19.95 shipping 6 months free HD Service. ($9.99*6=$59.94) 6 months free DVR service. ($5.99*6=$35.94) End result is that it will end up costing me $23.07! So now I can give my HR10-250 to my teenager, but still would like to get it to work with 6.3e.

Kurtster on March 10, 2008 9:22 PM

I have the exact same configuration and the same problem. A few weeks ago my one year old PTVNet upgraded HR10-250 started rebooting a lot.

Now it is stuck in a reboot loop once it gets to the "Almost there..." screen. I'm not good at hacking stuff and I've loved my PTVNET and TivoWebPlus but now my box is effectively dead, with lots of cool things archived on its 50GB drive.

Can DirecTV be doing things to intentionally screw with their customers who have modded boxes? All this garbage started when the phone calls started coming insisting I upgrade to their new dish a receivers (which I refused).

Anyone here know how to restore this thing without losing all my movies archived on there?

Thanks in advance,
Kurtster

StealthMDX on March 10, 2008 9:58 PM

Kurtster said: I have the exact same configuration and the same problem. A few weeks ago my one year old PTVNet upgraded HR10-250 started rebooting a lot. Now it is stuck in a reboot loop once it gets to the "Almost there..." screen. I'm not good at hacking stuff and I've loved my PTVNET and TivoWebPlus but now my box is effectively dead, with lots of cool things archived on its 50GB drive. Can DirecTV be doing things to intentionally screw with their customers who have modded boxes? All this garbage started when the phone calls started coming insisting I upgrade to their new dish a receivers (which I refused). Anyone here know how to restore this thing without losing all my movies archived on there? Thanks in advance, Kurtster

I'm not 100% sure so dont take my word for it, but given that,  I believe there is a way to pull the drive & plug it into a computer then boot ptvnet ir instantcake & gives you option to reload the drive & keep the data. That may get it booting again. If not worse case is you do a total image load from scratch, therefore loosing all of your content, but as it is now you can't access it anyway so in a way you lost it.

I have to find it VERY VERY hard to believe that this problem popped up with everyone coinsdentally.  More specifically when 6.3e was released.

As I stated previously I took their deal & upgraded to the new HDDVR w/ 5NLB Dish for my end cost of $23.07. I must say I absolutly love it. Menu's are really fast, more options and 2 of the best features with the new unit is

 1) that it gives you all of the new HD content that DirecTV has been bringing online, and there are allot now. You cannot get this on the old HR10-250 as it does not use the new compression format.

2) The next cool feature is the Video on Demand which is "Beta" but it works great. You can download over your broadband connection tv shows, movies, for free (except ppv) (yes the new dvr comes with 2 ethernet connections that work!)

Now back to the HR10-250. I reloaded the with 3.1.5f image I had and allowed it to "phone home" which I knew would probably remove the hacks I had when it downloaded & installed 6.3e. I still have it making daily calls via the phone line now, because I cannot get the hacks to recognise my USB network adapter anymore & just gave up. I have not had 1 reboot at all ever since! I would still like to get it hacked & get my network working again as some point, but having the new unit makes it less of a priority. There is a feature that I have seen on here that allows you to view your DVR from any internet connection, this is another thing I would like to get working also.

Good luck & let me know if you need any assistance.

pstgh on March 12, 2008 1:40 PM

Stealth-  What exactly is the latest HD DVR from Directv?  I'm one of those Directivo people who love their existing setup, but lament the fact that Directv and Tivo have parted ways...... I own an old 10-250 which I have never put it into service because I have yet to purchase an HD tv- but I'm on the precipice of doing so, and therefore would love to hear more of your thoughts.

Does that newer HDDVR allow HMO ?  I expect that it wouldn't make sense to worry about MRV since I'm not likely to have HD in other rooms until the year 2020 or so, but am curious if the benefits of HMO (playing your itunes music, playing picture slideshows etc...) are available to you with the new unit?

Thanks for your follow-up thoughts....

GregW on March 12, 2008 3:02 PM

The HR20 will do Music, Photos and some videos using UPNP.  There is talk that MRV will be coming the HR20 sooner or later.  The HR10 will not give you any of the new HD channels, so, if you are considering a move to HD, you'd be much better off scrapping the Tivo.

Kurtster on March 12, 2008 3:16 PM

Well since DirecTV is forcing me to choose between them and Tivo, I don't really care what DirecTV is offering for programming, if it means I have to lose Tivo for some knock-off with smaller fonts, I don't want it and will have to go where Tivo goes. For me that's going to mean FIOS and Tivo Series 3

I had DirecTV's idea of a "DVR" for a week and after it crashed once a day I sent it back. A Hyundai and a BMW both have four wheels, seats and take you from point A to point B. No matter how much the Hyundai dealer tells me the Sonata is just like a BMW, it isn't. Likewise, no matter how many DirecTV reps tell me "it's the same thing as Tivo"...it isn't.

Unfortunately I'm held hostage by their 2-year contract which expires in December for me so I need to work around my problem until then. I'm going to try reinstalling my InstantCake and preserving my data tonight. I'll post what happens.

IMPORTANT QUESTION:
Does anyone know if I buy the latest InstantCake with 6.3 and install over my old 3.15f install that was sliced to 6.2b (I think..or maybe it was 6.3b), will it still be able to preserve my data? I'd be happy to buy the latest version because I'd rather have TivoWebPlus 1.3 pre-installed.

pstgh on March 14, 2008 6:10 AM

Is anyone working on a software fix so that the 10-250's can convert the new compression format?

It would seem that is software and not hardware, but I'm no expert.

Kurtster on March 14, 2008 7:38 AM

i spoke to someone at DirecTV who told me that they were working on just such a solution but I found it hard to believe then, and now. I think the HR10-250 has a hardware MPEG-2 video decoder on-board and the new format they're using is MPEG-4. I can't imagine the video decoder on the unit is re-programmable. It's much more cost-efficient for manufacturers to choose a hardwired solution for decoding than it is a reprogrammable one.

On other news, my hard drive had bad blocks and Seagate's repair utility said they weren't where data is stored. I told it to correct them and now it hangs on the "Almost There. just a few minutes more..." screen. I think I'm going to lose all my stored movies, including the Star Wars flicks in HD. :-(

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