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skodises

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I have an HDVR2 with a DVRUpgrade 500Gb hard drive. As a result, automatic upgrades from D* are disabled. Will there be an problem with scheduled recordings (from season passes and wishlist items) as a result of the change in the Daylight Savings Time start date this weekend? It might cause some family friction if things are off by an hour for a couple of weeks here...

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March 5, 2007 6:34 PM

My understanding is that the display of the time-stamps in the guide information (and now playing list) will be off by one hour, but that all of your season passes will record properly.  The only exception to this rule, that I am aware of is if you have manual recordings scheduled; those will need to be adjusted.

For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread

March 5, 2007 7:26 PM

Thanks Lou!

Will the the display of the time-stamps in the guide information (and now playing list) ONLY be off by one hour until the "old" Daylight Savings Time ("DST") date hits OR until DST changes back again?

My GUESS is it will be off until the "old" DST date...

Also, how do I upgrade my PTVnetHD 6.3b + InstantCake HR10-250 6.3b created Tivo to 6.3c?  I read in another post we can download newer 6.3c versions using our download invoices (THANKS!) but don't wasn't clear if this would require reformatting the Tivo (AGAIN... Ouch!) or just running some update.

Please let me know ASAP so I know how to resolve this latest "curve ball" that Tivo has thrown us.

Thanks for ALL your advice and GREAT software...  You're AWESOME!

March 5, 2007 9:07 PM

I just checked MFS, and found that the unit had the 6.2a slices available (which appears to be D*'s solution to the DST issue, among other things). After consulting several of the web forums to build up my courage, I ran the slicer to install it, and everything came back up just fine- including the static IP setup I'd done for TWP. So: the DST issue is now moot, and my very simple TWP install works well with 6.2a, FWIW. I don't have any more elaborate hacking installed- I just like to be able to manage the thing from my desktop.

The only issue I have now is that I don't get a bash prompt on the serial port- but I do have TWP and telnet, so I'll be able to figure that out in due course. Anyway, the slicer is a very nicely done piece of code. Thanks for including it with your prebuilt disks!

March 6, 2007 9:03 AM

Slicer is included with the pre-built disks?

I have a pre-built disk.. where do I look for the slicer?

 

------------------------------<br />Mike<br /><br />3 x DSR-704 (250 GB, 250 GB, 160 GB; PTVNet, superpatched, tytools, mfs_ftp, bufferhack)<br />1 x R-15 (not active)

March 6, 2007 11:39 AM

/ptvupgrade/bin/slicer, on my unit. It turns out that the serial port issue was a simple cable problem. So I'm up and running with little drama. Hopefully, this will also help avoid any logfile issues if D* starts putting their new guide data format back in the stream...

March 6, 2007 9:20 PM

There is no joy in Mudville tonight, I have nothing called slicer in my /ptvupgrade/bin directory.

  

------------------------------<br />Mike<br /><br />3 x DSR-704 (250 GB, 250 GB, 160 GB; PTVNet, superpatched, tytools, mfs_ftp, bufferhack)<br />1 x R-15 (not active)

March 6, 2007 9:23 PM

Mike -

Slicer is not intended to be included with the pre-built PTVnet kits.  A version of it may have slipped into the release, but I'm not sure which one or when that happened.  So if its in there, bonus for whomever.  But its really not something we intended to release or include.  Sorry.

For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread

March 6, 2007 9:43 PM

Thanks Lou. I had only checked the pre-built drive I got from DVRUpgrade. It didn't have slicer.

However, the two machines I IC2'd and PTVNet'd DO have a binary called slicer in /ptvupgrade/bin.

Is this intentional? If not, you may want to check your distribution for PTVNet. 

 

 

------------------------------<br />Mike<br /><br />3 x DSR-704 (250 GB, 250 GB, 160 GB; PTVNet, superpatched, tytools, mfs_ftp, bufferhack)<br />1 x R-15 (not active)

March 7, 2007 10:25 AM

Just as an FYI, I'm having a minor issue here with the unit rebooting every night and not bringing TWP back up afterwards. It comes up fine from a power cycle, but not from whatever is rebooting it automatically. There is some discussion of that phenomenon on DDB, along with a tcl script that supposedly fixes it- so moving up to 6.2a has not been completely seamless as I'd originally reported. I'll play witih that tonight and see if I can get this problem to  go away.

 

Sorry for any confusion caused by reporting that my pre-built kit had the slicer included. I didn't know that it wasn't supposed to be there... 

On edit: the reboot problem has been solved using the tcl script here ( http://dealdatabase.com/forum/showpos... ) and a reboot. This causes the values of /State/ServiceConfig and /SwSystem/Active to match, and prevents the machine from thinking it needs to do a reboot to install the (already installed) new slices.
March 9, 2007 8:15 AM

Thanks scodises

March 10, 2007 12:43 AM

I'm confused. I actually got a RoboCall from DTV saying that my box will be upgraded for the DST problem in the next day or 2. I've got a 250MB drive on a Sony T60 that was built with Instant Cake. Now does that mean by default that upgrades from DTV are disabled and my system won't be overwritten by the DTV upgrade?

I checked the SWSystem in the MFS and sure enough there is a 3.5b sitting there waiting to be installed.

I'm used to having to dismantle the bloody unit every time DTV does an upgrade and having to redo the mods for the network card and all that. But this is the first upgrade I've faced since I upgraded the disk and installed Instant Cake. And unless I'm terribly mistaken, the last upgrade blew away folks using LBA48 support until it could be fitted back in. Is this different?

I'm hearing folks talk about how they avoided problems by installing the new release manually and then overwriting with the old LBA48 kernel.

 Is it as simple as typing (if your active boot partition is 6)

 dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/dev/hda3 

as was reported in http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/...

March 10, 2007 10:54 AM

ok... i think I'm somewhat screwed and need some help.  Got the robocall about DST.  Oh... I have a hr10-250 that I upgraded with instacake and ptv a few months ago.  I was running 6.3b until this morning. 

I bought and ran the slicer this morning and got an error.  The error told me to run something in the tvbin directory which i did and found there was no /install directory.  I created it and ran the /tvbin thingy again and it ran succesfullly... then told me to reboot... so i did.   The tivo came up no prob and...

 tada... no access through ethernet and probably no hacks...

do I yank the drive and run ptvnet again?

March 10, 2007 1:42 PM

Didn't seem to matter what I did - it went into

"installing new software from the tivo service this will take a few minutes" 

 and stayed there for an hour.

 Unplugging and replugging it in really screwed it up - now its in a "Powering up" restart loop.

 Oh well, have to pull the drives and copy the kernel and system partitions across again.

 It would have been nice to get some advice on this in advance.  How many Instant Cake users are going to get thumped this weekend?  I was trying to avoid the disaster when the daily call was made Sunday.

 Annoyed that a chunk of my Saturday is now "dismantle TivO, dismantle PC; boot Linux; dd...; reassemble TiVO; reassemble PC"

March 10, 2007 2:08 PM

OK.

I clicked on "MFS", and then clicked on "SwSystem"... this is what I see:

Directory listing of /SwSystem
NameTypeIdDate TimeSize
6.2-01-2-151 tyDb 60893 03/23/05 12:25 724
6.2a-01-2-101 tyDb 1545383 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-121 tyDb 1545387 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-151 tyDb 1545388 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-301 tyDb 1545389 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-321 tyDb 1545390 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-351 tyDb 1545391 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-381 tyDb 1545392 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-3F1 tyDb 1545393 02/17/07 03:34 700
ACTIVE tyDb 60893 03/23/05 12:25 724

Based on my reading of the instructions for slicer, *WHICH* of these do I need to "slicer"? All? First? Last? Some?

Given that the sizes are the same, I suspect the last is hte one to install/slicer but how do I know?

Geez, and I used to feel competent! ;)

March 10, 2007 4:47 PM

Ok you guys are WAY over my head.  I bought the upgrade hard drive 6 months ago and it works fine and as advised its never been hooked up to the phone.  I dont use any of the extra features, network, cake, slicer, etc. - its just a normal TIVO for me.   Now the automated call from TIVO today.  Am I in trouble??  Do I need to hook up my phone line??  Wont that result in Directv scribbling on my PTV disk?  What happens if I dont hook up the phone? Thanks!

March 10, 2007 6:06 PM

As  with all other software upgrades from the past if your phone line is not connected you do not have anything to worry about right? I received the message and it said if the software upgrade was not downloaded that all my season passes would be okay and record on time just the time stamp would be off until April 1st. The only things that would need to be adjusted is if you were manually setting up a recording you would need to actually set it up to record an hour earlier. Lou Jacob was one of the first post on this and looks like he was right.

I do not know about you but I am not hooking up a phone line at all. My system is hacked with PTVnet and InstantCake and superpatch-67all, I have never used the slicer program and have been okay for quite a while without any software issues.

2 Phillips DSR704's InstantCaked 6.2a-PTVnet -200GB HD's-MRV-HMO my MP3's, 3 Hughes SD-DVR40's-InstantCaked 6.2a and PTVnet -250GB HD's-MRV-HMO my MP3's, 1 Hughes HDVR2 IntantCaked 6.2a and PTVnet- 2 40GB HD's-ONLY for MRV storage.

March 10, 2007 6:50 PM

OK.  Here is the sequence of what I did if it helps someone else.

Sony SAT T-60 with Instant Cake LBA48 on 250MB disk drive.

 My goal was to avoid having the DST upgrade blow away the kernel and possibly lead to data corruption.  So I took the following pre-emptive measures.

Copied Active system and boot partitions (HDA7 & HDA6) to inactive partitions so that they were mirror images with dd.

Fixed fstab in copied partition.

Unfortunately, when I "made the phone call" which on my system is done over the internet, and then the system rebooted - it hung on the "Installing software message..." and I had to unplug it which is probably what caused what I saw next.

So I pull the drives and the active partition HDA7 is EMPTY! but (Thank God) the inactive partition HDA4 has the mirror image that I copied to it.

So now I dd if=/dev/hda4 of=/dev/hda7 bs=1024, fix the fstab, and then put the drive back into the tivo.

Turn it  on, welcome screen, Installing software screen, and it then boots up OK.  I'll have to check whether other things look right (like if my kernel did get preserved properly).

Just tried TWP and Telnet and they don't work so I guess I have to pull the drive back out and run the nic configuration stuff.  But otherwise it is running and receiving. 

March 10, 2007 9:24 PM

barryhills said: Ok you guys are WAY over my head.  I bought the upgrade hard drive 6 months ago and it works fine and as advised its never been hooked up to the phone.  I dont use any of the extra features, network, cake, slicer, etc. - its just a normal TIVO for me.  Now the automated call from TIVO today.  Am I in trouble??  Do I need to hook up my phone line??  Wont that result in Directv scribbling on my PTV disk?  What happens if I dont hook up the phone? Thanks!

I have the same setup. I assume you do NOT want to plug in a phone line and turn on updates (which, if you are not getting the constant nagging to plug in a phone line, you have off). This is due to DireTV not supporting 6.x sw for DirecTivo series 2 units. If you telent in you will see linux is not setup with a timezone (date reports in utc). This supports the idea that DirecTV is not using the timezone info for running the recorder and uses its own set tz/dst (manually or via sat) to effect its display. So the easiest thing to do if the quide displayis wrong might be to manually change your timezone until april 1st. I have not tried this so I don't know for sure what it will do (but give me a few hours..) note that such would make your timezone and zip code incompatible, I don't know if that hurts anything. Hopefully it gets the local channels to select via the zip code and doesn't care that the zip code is not in the selected timezone. then just set it back on 5/1 . Hopeful a hack wil arrive to fix this. The simpleist of which might be an at/batch job to change tivo's timezone on the appropriate dates. Assuming there is a way to set tivo's timezone programtically (and assuming moving your TZ +/-1 fixes this problem, which I strongly suspect it will), it would be easy to have such a job just have a list of the dates and each run re-queues itself for the next change.

March 11, 2007 10:35 AM

w4kh said: OK. I clicked on "MFS", and then clicked on "SwSystem"... this is what I see:
Directory listing of /SwSystem
NameTypeIdDate TimeSize
6.2-01-2-151 tyDb 60893 03/23/05 12:25 724
6.2a-01-2-101 tyDb 1545383 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-121 tyDb 1545387 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-151 tyDb 1545388 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-301 tyDb 1545389 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-321 tyDb 1545390 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-351 tyDb 1545391 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-381 tyDb 1545392 02/17/07 03:34 700
6.2a-01-2-3F1 tyDb 1545393 02/17/07 03:34 700
ACTIVE tyDb 60893 03/23/05 12:25 724
Based on my reading of the instructions for slicer, *WHICH* of these do I need to "slicer"? All? First? Last? Some? Given that the sizes are the same, I suspect the last is hte one to install/slicer but how do I know? Geez, and I used to feel competent! ;) 

 

Use 6.2a-01-2-151. Your ACTIVE Id is 60893 and 60893 is associated with 6.2-01-2-151 (top line).

151 is the image for your kind of DTiVo. The other files are for other types of DTiVos. You get all the slices for all DTiVo brands, you only need the one for your brand. 

 

------------------------------<br />Mike<br /><br />3 x DSR-704 (250 GB, 250 GB, 160 GB; PTVNet, superpatched, tytools, mfs_ftp, bufferhack)<br />1 x R-15 (not active)

March 11, 2007 3:01 PM

How does one get the updates onto your system in the first place? i.e. if updates are disabled (as I understand things) it won't attempt to make calls and won't load new sw. How do I set things up to load, but not install (so i can use the slicer to do so)? Currently, since I do have updates diabled, my SWSystem only shows the current system (which is 6.2-01-2-101, so if 6.2a fixes the DST issue I'd love to get it) In the meantime, I just set my timezone one notch to the east and the guide displays fine.

March 11, 2007 4:55 PM

Okay I downloaded the slicer 1.7 from DVRupgrade last night and went to work on my DirecTV Tivos. I found the upgrade went just as I have read from others without any problems. I did lose TivoWebPlus and Superpatch which I expected but I was able to go in and FTP the Superpatch 6.2a patch in and TivoWebPlus V. 1.3.1 and they came back up with no problems.

My issue is that four of my D Tivos received DirecTVs SW upgrade but one did not. I do not have a practical way of running a phone line from the Tivo to a phone jack. Why did it not receive the update via the satellite like the other four?(None are connected to a phone line). How or what can I do other than connecting a phone line to get the DirecTV slices downloaded via the satellite? I thought I saw somewhere a code I could put into the Tivo box so it would receive the update. Any help is appreciated.

2 Phillips DSR704's InstantCaked 6.2a-PTVnet -200GB HD's-MRV-HMO my MP3's, 3 Hughes SD-DVR40's-InstantCaked 6.2a and PTVnet -250GB HD's-MRV-HMO my MP3's, 1 Hughes HDVR2 IntantCaked 6.2a and PTVnet- 2 40GB HD's-ONLY for MRV storage.

March 11, 2007 5:25 PM

RockRatt said: Okay I downloaded the slicer 1.7 from DVRupgrade last night and went to work on my DirecTV Tivos. I found the upgrade went just as I have read from others without any problems. I did lose TivoWebPlus and Superpatch which I expected but I was able to go in and FTP the Superpatch 6.2a patch in and TivoWebPlus V. 1.3.1 and they came back up with no problems. My issue is that four of my D Tivos received DirecTVs SW upgrade but one did not. I do not have a practical way of running a phone line from the Tivo to a phone jack. Why did it not receive the update via the satellite like the other four?(None are connected to a phone line). How or what can I do other than connecting a phone line to get the DirecTV slices downloaded via the satellite? I thought I saw somewhere a code I could put into the Tivo box so it would receive the update. Any help is appreciated.

 

 

They are available through a torrent.

Look in this thread: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/... for the clues. 

------------------------------<br />Mike<br /><br />3 x DSR-704 (250 GB, 250 GB, 160 GB; PTVNet, superpatched, tytools, mfs_ftp, bufferhack)<br />1 x R-15 (not active)

March 12, 2007 7:10 PM

Okay I found and downloaded the slices from eMule. I FTP'd them into "var/packages/" I then tried to use  "dbload /var/packages/*.slice" but it errored out with "bash: dbload: command not found".

Anyone have any Ideas how I get dbload or where it should be in my system? I tried to look in quite a few of the file folders. Any Idea what I am doing wrong? Thanks

2 Phillips DSR704's InstantCaked 6.2a-PTVnet -200GB HD's-MRV-HMO my MP3's, 3 Hughes SD-DVR40's-InstantCaked 6.2a and PTVnet -250GB HD's-MRV-HMO my MP3's, 1 Hughes HDVR2 IntantCaked 6.2a and PTVnet- 2 40GB HD's-ONLY for MRV storage.

March 12, 2007 8:44 PM

Here is where I found it: http://dealdatabase.com/forum/showthr...

One down, two to go..

 

------------------------------<br />Mike<br /><br />3 x DSR-704 (250 GB, 250 GB, 160 GB; PTVNet, superpatched, tytools, mfs_ftp, bufferhack)<br />1 x R-15 (not active)

March 13, 2007 7:14 AM

Awesome. I was able to get dbload to work. Then I ran slicer on the last of my five boxes that did not get the DirecTV SW upgrade. It worked perfectly. I then re-applied superpatch-67all then ran superpatch-62a. Once I rebooted I still had telnet and FTP. I then re-applied TivoWebPlus 1.3.1. So MRV,HMO, telnet,FTP, are all working. I will make sure that the superpatch-62a is working good once a program is recorded so I can transfer it. Thanks to all for all the GREAT support and info.

2 Phillips DSR704's InstantCaked 6.2a-PTVnet -200GB HD's-MRV-HMO my MP3's, 3 Hughes SD-DVR40's-InstantCaked 6.2a and PTVnet -250GB HD's-MRV-HMO my MP3's, 1 Hughes HDVR2 IntantCaked 6.2a and PTVnet- 2 40GB HD's-ONLY for MRV storage.

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