Categories: General Discussion
D* pushing ver 6.3 to HR10-250
http://directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P3200006
Lou, what does this mean for owners of the HR10-250 with PTVnet?
I would like to ask this same question a different way...
The upgrade cannot happen with the phone line disconnected, can it? I was under the impression the phone like acts as a catalyst for the upgrade, please correct me if I am wrong.
I think it's safe to assume PTVNet will be all over this issue once the upgrade actually happens. This means a scraficial lamb HD10-250 must be used?
I have two of them, both using PTVNet upgraded disks, and really want the folders option.
regards,
patrick
Until the update is actually released, we can't say anything, for certain.
However, assuming the update is handled the same way as updates in the past have been handled, folks who do not have a phone line connected (or are not making their daily calls) will not see the update happen unless they telnet into their units and manually invoke the installation process.
With that in mind, we will develop some tools, and/or documentation that will allow folks with PTVnet to manually invoke the 6.3 installation and apply an updated version of PTVnet (cost, if any, to be determined) and we will also offer a recertification service (as we've done in the past) for those who want to send their units or drives to us for diags and reinstallation of the tools.
At this point, everything is speculation as we do not have the updated software and know very little about it - it is expected that most things will essentially behave as they do on 6.2 for SD units (that means that TiVoWebPlus will lose a few functions, such as 'screen' and other sendkey-related functions, and that beyond that, things will be essentially the same, from a 'hack' perspective.
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
Its really amazing that D* waits a year to 2 years after this thing was released to give it better functionality. And they do it as it is poised to become a doorstop with mpeg4 HD DVR on its way???? Just amazing.
vurbano said: Its really amazing that D* waits a year to 2 years after this thing was released to give it better functionality. And they do it as it is poised to become a doorstop with mpeg4 HD DVR on its way???? Just amazing.
Depends on how you look at it. Up until a few months ago, DirecTV had no long term committment to this system; their plan was for the non-TiVo R15 to eventually replace existing SD DirecTiVo boxes, and the future non-TiVo HD DVR to eventually replace the HR10-250. As you may know, the R15 is/was a dismal failure. Since its release, DirecTV / TiVo announced a 3-year contract offering continuing support for TiVo-based DVR systems. My guess is that the still unreleased non-TiVo HD DVR will also suck. What it boils down to for DirecTV is that if they let the currently installed TiVo DVR systems fall too far behind the competition, they will lose customers and not be able to grow marketshare.
And keep in mind, the current units will not become "doorstops" until the MPEG2 signal stops broadcasting - that is not likely to happen anytime within the next several years, if ever.
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
FYI -
Current newsletter available here; go here for mailing list subscriptions...
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
Your right Lou, not doorstops until Mepg2 HD ceases. It just seems very strange to me that they have waited so long. I hope you can offer us a very minimal cost upgrade.
The newsletter says:
"If you've built a kit using InstantCake, your unit should update itself to the latest version as soon as it becomes available".
I don't understand this. What does "unit should update itself" mean? Is this over the internet or do I have to hook my phone line back up? Is this the latest version of instantcake, the D* firmware 6.3, or both?
If you mean that I should have the phone line connected to update my unit to D* firmware 6.3, then how can you know now that instantcake will be compatible with it?
Mark C Hahn
mchahn said: The newsletter says: "If you've built a kit using InstantCake, your unit should update itself to the latest version as soon as it becomes available". I don't understand this. What does "unit should update itself" mean? Is this over the internet or do I have to hook my phone line back up? Is this the latest version of instantcake, the D* firmware 6.3, or both? If you mean that I should have the phone line connected to update my unit to D* firmware 6.3, then how can you know now that instantcake will be compatible with it?
My question exactly. I have Instacake on mine with a larger HD installed. Will this update cause any problems with my larger HD space? Will it revert back to recognizing a smaller drive, even though a bigger one is installed?
Chad
Chad /mchahn,
There is no firmware update being discussed here, only a software update. As stated in my previous post, you will need to have your phoneline connected to trigger the update. The Internet is not a factor here and units updated with InstantCake are not networked - so again, they would need to be connected to a phone line for the update to be triggered.
As for drive sizes -- we can't say for sure, however I have no reason to believe that a unit upgraded with a larger drive will be adversely affected by a software update.
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
So you are saying it is ok to upgrade the D* software to 6.3 without getting a new version of instantcake? Isn't that risky?
I still don't really understand that comment in the newsletter and what I am supposed to do. I guess what I (and the other instantcake users dumb like me) would like to know is exactly what to do and when.
Mark C Hahn
What you should do is stay subscribed and we'll keep you posted; if you are not subscribed to the Series2 Networking / PTVnet Interest group, then add yourself.
I can't make any recommendation at this point other than to just sit tight and do nothing, which is essentially what we've said in the newsletter. Again, the 6.3 software isn't released, we have no reason to believe its going to adversely affect those who have used InstantCake, and we know that any software update will overwrite any modifications we've made, so those who are using PTVnet are encouraged to keep the phone line disconnected until everyone knows more.
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
Lou Jacob (PTVupgrade) said: What you should do is stay subscribed and we'll keep you posted; if you are not subscribed to the Series2 Networking / PTVnet Interest group, then add yourself. I can't make any recommendation at this point other than to just sit tight and do nothing, which is essentially what we've said in the newsletter. Again, the 6.3 software isn't released, we have no reason to believe its going to adversely affect those who have used InstantCake, and we know that any software update will overwrite any modifications we've made, so those who are using PTVnet are encouraged to keep the phone line disconnected until everyone knows more. Where is this?
Until the update is actually released, we can't say anything, for certain.
However, assuming the update is handled the same way as updates in the past have been handled, folks who do not have a phone line connected (or are not making their daily calls) will not see the update happen unless they telnet into their units and manually invoke the installation process.
With that in mind, we will develop some tools, and/or documentation that will allow folks with PTVnet to manually invoke the 6.3 installation and apply an updated version of PTVnet (cost, if any, to be determined) and we will also offer a recertification service (as we've done in the past) for those who want to send their units or drives to us for diags and reinstallation of the tools.
At this point, everything is speculation as we do not have the updated software and know very little about it - it is expected that most things will essentially behave as they do on 6.2 for SD units (that means that TiVoWebPlus will lose a few functions, such as 'screen' and other sendkey-related functions, and that beyond that, things will be essentially the same, from a 'hack' perspective.
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
Is it worth hacking my HR10-250 now or waiting till after the update and you release a new PTV upgrade?
Is it worth hacking my HR10-250 now or waiting till after the update and you release a new PTV upgrade?
That depends on what your needs are. If you only need TiVoWebPlus and to disable the Daily Call, then there is no reason to wait to upgrade. If you're like me and are hopeful that MRV will work with 6.3, then you may want to wait.
TechLore Blog
HR10-250, Samsung SIR-S4120R, SIR-S4080R, 2 Philips DSR704s (one connected to a Slingbox A/V). One box used the "Zipper"; rest used PTVnet to enable networking features.
Anybody get it yet? I wonder what's taking so long?
SteveEJ
3 DTiVO's
+ Network
+ SlingBox
= Lots Of Options!
:=)
Got it!
Directory listing of /SwSystem
Name Type Id Date Time Size
3.1.5f-01-2-357 tyDb 206180 03/25/05 12:10 700
6.3-01-2-357 tyDb 537177 09/14/06 02:45 768
ACTIVE tyDb 206180 03/25/05 12:10 700
Also posted on tivocommunity. I am a current customer, No phone is plugged in, so tell me what I should do? Run the slicer thing, get the slice over to you? I also live in Chicago area if you want to put on the Ghostbuster suits and commit surgery.
Mine came in around 10:30 AM. Now I just have to decide whether I'm brave enough to try it with my ptvupgrade.
Who is going to be the brave one to try it first?
Mark C Hahn
Pete -
There is an updated version of The Slicer which should do the trick. But with that said, I have not yet gotten the slices on my own bench system. Naturally I am brave/stupid enough to try it, but not in a position to do it quite yet.
So with that said, I'd ask that you wait, and our official stance to all of our PTVnet customers is "hang tight" - until we've thoroughly tested things, we'd rather you just sit tight and let the folks who want to play with The Slicer fall on the barbed wire...
We deliberately released The Slicer is a tool for the more technical audiences so that they could play and tinker and so we could learn how the product could be best adapted to suit a number of different audience.
Let the great experiment begin.
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
I have used the latest (I think) Slicer to update from 3.1.5f to 6.3.
There were no errors at all, but I now have endless reboot loop.
!!Help!!.
wasdvd said: I have used the latest (I think) Slicer to update from 3.1.5f to 6.3. There were no errors at all, but I now have endless reboot loop. !!Help!!.
I don't think this is the right place for this post; the closest thing to the 3.15f --> 6.3 Slicer thread is here:
Upgrade your Hacked HR10-250 to 6.3
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
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