Same thing on hdc. I did notice that during initialization the script referred to the cd-rom as ide0 and the hard drive as ide1 so it must be seeing the drive. Could the problem be the wrong pio mode on the hd? It may be set to LBA in the BIOS, should I change that?
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I'm attempting a beta upgrade of my Samsung SIR-S4040R. Software version is 3.1.1e-01-2-381. No problem with burning the ISO to disk, etc, but when running the scripts I see error messages referring to TIVO code not found. Am using the DTIVO's hard drive, which works fine when replaced in the unit. Also there are a lot of "no such directory" type errors. I've tried it with the hd as master and cd-rom as slave, and vice-versa. Computer's BIOS recognizes both drives perfectly. Any ideas?
It's a plain vanilla Pentium III with a Phoenix BIOS. I'm going to try the cd in a newer computer, will report back.
Still nope -
I tried it in my (fairly) new Dell Dimension. Same result. As I mentioned earlier, there's nothing wrong with the drive itself - when installed in the DTivo it works fine.
Ok, we've identified the problem. Not sure yet how to fix it or whether or not it can be fixed. DJL attempted this installation on a factory drive that had been running in his TiVo for some time.
Upon further examination (we put the drive back into his PC had him ctrl-c into the script and type the following two commands:)
export MFS_DEVICE=/dev/hdc
mfs_ls /SwSystem
(this assumes the drive is connected as the secondary master)
The output we got was this:
7021 tyDb 3.1.1e-01-2-381
776490 tyDb 6.2-01-2-381
370201 tyDb ACTIVE
And what it means is that although 3.1.1e is RUNNING on the system, it also means that the latest software, or portions of it (6.2) have been downloaded via satellite, but not yet installed. Its possible that the next phone call, and definite that at some point, the phone call will trigger the installation of the 6.2 software, forever leaving 3.1.1e in its wake.
Not sure if "forcing" the installation of the PTVnet software (which may be possible to do) would be wise in a situation like this. The state of the system software is sort of 'in between' right now.
Normally, my recommendation would be to build a new drive with InstantCake, or through some other means. In this case, its less than ideal for a variety of reasons, including the loss of the existing programming.
Wanted to document this for others should you run into the same problem -- if you experience this, please try those commands and report back.
Thx
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
View unverified member's comment - posted by tensor
odd situation which i'd like to be able to repeat
Odd situation with the mount points; I've tested with those exact settings and not had a problem.
As for the software version information... I'm going to call this the "half-breed" state; take a look at the last 3 digits of the software version. The "151" is your particular model (HDVR2). The 6.2 version has a "101" - that's a Philips DSR7000. In and of itself, it is not strange - in fact, what I've been observing is that unit will download the software for ALL the models being upgraded (101, 121, 151, etc - why? because they have to - the software is coming down from the satellite, so the unit catches everything). At Install time, the appropriate software set is actually installed and configured in your system.
The reason I'm calling this the "half-breed" situation is because ALL of the packages have not yet been installed and loaded into your database.
The closest I've come to replicating this here is having ALL the packages at the same time in the system, but still running 3.1.1e; the PTVnet scripts work fine, in that case...
So... would you be willing to make an mfsbackup of your dd'ed drive and ftp it to a drop I can give you access to? If so, I may be able to replicate the problem and come up with a workaround...
I have a feeling you already know how to do this; but if not, the command might be:
mfsbackup -Tf 9999 -s -9 TiVoHB.bak /dev/hdc
assuming you are sitting on a fat32 or ext2 filesystem and your TiVo drive is the secondary master.
If you are up for this, please let me know; PM me and I'll give you a login where you can dump the file once you've got one.
Thx
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
View unverified member's comment - posted by tensor
View unverified member's comment - posted by tensor
All in all, this is a strange (and hopefully rare) situation. Note that TWO people have had this problem, and its been for the same reasons -- a half-breed system where the original drive (or a LITERAL DD COPY) is being used.
One thing I will do, for sure, is add some information to the product overview to indicate that its likely that the PTVnet scripts will NOT work on an original drive (or a DD copy). Perhaps that can be spun into more of a theme of "you wouldn't want to use your original drive anyway..."
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
View unverified member's comment - posted by tensor
tensor said:
I have confirmed the files exist on the upgraded drive. I will head out to buy a usb wired ethernet device.
Should tivo be reporting more than 120 hours on a 160 gig drive?
--tensor
That sounds about right. As I recall, you did the mfsadd yourself. Remember, the PTVnet scripts go one of two ways:
1) install network drivers and lba48 kernel on an already upgraded drive
2) uses InstantCake CD to create expanded (or unexpanded) drive set and then installs network drivers
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
Just be patient...
If anyone encounters the same difficulty we had (the "cannot determine TIVO software version. Installation aborted" error) the fix seems to be pretty simple: wait. Once all of the slices for the 6.2 upgrade have been downloaded, the installation will proceed correctly (provided, of course, that 6.2 has not actually been installed.)
I would guess that this will be a pretty rare problem, since the 6.2 rollout seems to be in full swing. Still, hope this info helps someone.
tivoupgrade said:
Ok, we've identified the problem. Not sure yet how to fix it or whether or not it can be fixed. DJL attempted this installation on a factory drive that had been running in his TiVo for some time.
Upon further examination (we put the drive back into his PC had him ctrl-c into the script and type the following two commands:)
export MFS_DEVICE=/dev/hdc
mfs_ls /SwSystem
(this assumes the drive is connected as the secondary master)
The output we got was this:
7021 tyDb 3.1.1e-01-2-381
776490 tyDb 6.2-01-2-381
370201 tyDb ACTIVE
And what it means is that although 3.1.1e is RUNNING on the system, it also means that the latest software, or portions of it (6.2) have been downloaded via satellite, but not yet installed. Its possible that the next phone call, and definite that at some point, the phone call will trigger the installation of the 6.2 software, forever leaving 3.1.1e in its wake.
Not sure if "forcing" the installation of the PTVnet software (which may be possible to do) would be wise in a situation like this. The state of the system software is sort of 'in between' right now.
Normally, my recommendation would be to build a new drive with InstantCake, or through some other means. In this case, its less than ideal for a variety of reasons, including the loss of the existing programming.
Wanted to document this for others should you run into the same problem -- if you experience this, please try those commands and report back.
Thx
Okay, so the 3.1.1e related version of PTVNet is availble as a general release. I've found it works perfectly with your InstantCakes on the 'select' models, but I had that same problem where the script cannot find files with my previously 'virgin' image. My virgin image is one of those that has the 6.2 (call it dormant) with 3.1.1.e still active.
The reference page found here says that a 6.2 supported version of PTVNet will be available soon.
" PTVnet Software CD for Select DVR systems running 6.2 (coming soon) "
Will there be an opportunity to beta test this version? I'd like to be on that list too!
FYI, per D*, the 6.2 has already been distributed to the LA area, the rest of the country is slated for April 7th. Guess that's when a lot of people will be busy. :)
Igorian said:
Okay, so the 3.1.1e related version of PTVNet is availble as a general release. I've found it works perfectly with your InstantCakes on the 'select' models, but I had that same problem where the script cannot find files with my previously 'virgin' image. My virgin image is one of those that has the 6.2 (call it dormant) with 3.1.1.e still active.
The reference page found here says that a 6.2 supported version of PTVNet will be available soon.
" PTVnet Software CD for Select DVR systems running 6.2 (coming soon) "
Will there be an opportunity to beta test this version? I'd like to be on that list too!
FYI, per D*, the 6.2 has already been distributed to the LA area, the rest of the country is slated for April 7th. Guess that's when a lot of people will be busy. :)
We'll certainly announce something when we are ready to - but please lets keep this thread "on-topic" --- thx!
For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread
OK, so I ran the above commands & it listed all 6 of the download versions, with the 3.3.1e still active. I then tried the phone connection many times, still no update.
1. Is there any available info on 6.2? Any new features? There does not seem to be any info on this or other forums.
Edit: I found the 6.2 info, so forget #1.....
2. Is there an ETA for the new PTV upgrade disk yet? (Edit) I just bought the 3.1.1e disk on the 19th, but since it looks like it won't work, can I get the new 6.2 disk when it is released?
Success!
Update: I finally got it to work, but it took some work. I found that doing an mfsbackup/mfsrestore to another drive does not copy the new software downloads. After this, I was able to run the PTVNET disk & it installed just fine.
In the process, I decided to upgrade at the same time. I am now running a pair of 250 gig drives in a series 2 DTiVo, showing 445 hours, & networking is running fine.
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OK:
The cd boots, script runs asks if "ready to have some fun" - yes
use Instacake: no
how is Tivo A drive connected - hda (drive is primary master in computer)
dual drives - no
Agree to license - yes
At this point there is a "cannot determine TIVO software version. Installation aborted" error.
The script then continues, going through the different flags that can be set. Each of these returns a "no such file or directory" error, regardless of a yes or no answer.