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Lou Jacob

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Series1 InstantCake, stuck at "Welcome. Powering up..." screen? Try this...

OK, over the past several months, there have been a handful of folks who have reported problems with our Series1 InstantCake version not working properly. We think the problem has to do with the many types of PC's that are out there, and the core of the InstantCake CD and the parameters used for booting the CD seem to work on the majority of PC's but not all of them. If you are certain that you are following the instructions to the letter, and have a situation where you cannot get your newly baked drive to boot up in your Series1 SA or DirecTiVo unit, then this workaround may do the trick for you.

You will need to download and burn a new CD or two. They are relatively small downloads (10-20MB) and they are free. Just follow the instructions below and you should be up and running relatively quickly:

  • download and burn latest PTVlba48 CD from here (version 4.04 or later) and label it "PTVlba48"

  • if you have a DirecTV Series1 unit and are using a drive larger than 137GB and/or a TurboNet/CacheCard, then download and burn this CD as well; label it "tivoflash"

Part 1

For all units follow these steps:
  • boot your PC using the PTVlba48 CD (just hit at the boot prompt

  • type "PTVbake-special" to begin the baking process

  • you will be asked several straightforward questions about whether you are going to expand your image to fill the drive and whether you want to create a large swap space, answer them to the best of your abilities

  • as instructed, insert your original InstantCake CD in the drive when prompted and begin the baking process
If you don't have a Series1 DirecTiVo with a TurboNet or CacheCard, and you are not using drives larger than 137GB, you are done!

Part 2

Series1 SA units (Philips HDR / Sony SVR-2000 using drives larger than 137GB (with or without networking cards), do this:
  • eject your original InstantCake CD and re-insert PTVlba48 CD

  • type "mountcd"

  • type "copykern"

  • select the appropriate drive to use (should be hdc if you are setup according to the InstantCake instructions)

  • choose option "4" for installing the appropriate kernel

  • confirm your choices and proceed with the kernel update procedure

  • type "reboot" and shutdown your PC - you are done!

Part 3

Series1 DirecTV units (Philips DSR6000 / Sony SAT-T60 / Hughes GXCEBOT) using drives larger than 137GB and/or using TurboNet or CacheCard interfaces, do this:
  • eject your original InstantCake CD and re-insert PTVlba48 CD

  • type "mountcd"

  • type "copykern"

  • select the appropriate drive to use (should be hdc if you are setup according to the InstantCake instructions)

  • choose option "2" for installing the appropriate kernel

  • confirm your choices and proceed with the kernel update procedure

  • type "reboot" and eject the PTVlba48CD, and insert the "tivoflash" CD

  • hit athe first boot prompt, and hit again at the login prompt

  • now type "cd ./tivoflash"

  • now type "install" and once again, select the appropriate drive (should be hdc)

  • when the process is complete, you are done!
That should do it. Please respond to let me know if there are any glitches or if this does not work for you. Keep in mind that there are other reasons why your unit may be stuck in the "powering up..." mode, so check the release notes, and read the installation instructions before trying this out and especially before posting here. This will be a heavily moderated thread, so please keep things on-topic.

Thanks and hope this helps!

For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread

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Lou Jacob Avatar
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January 7, 2005 10:12 PM

Tom C. said:



I ran IC worked as expected in PC with a brand new 120gig maxtor - but once put in the TiVo stuck a powering up. So I started the process of the work-a-round. downloaded both ISO images, reinstalled drive back in PC and started with the "PTVlba48" disc as instructed, got to the point where it told me to insert the IC original disc, which I did, but when I proceeded it told me it wasn't the correct disc??? couldn't get any further than that....

help..


Sounds like the InstantCake CD didn't get mounted properly. If you can try it again, but this time, BEFORE running the PTVbake-special script, eject the the LBA48 CD and put your old IC CD in, and type "mountcd" -- see if it actually mounts properly. If you can be more specific with any errors you receive, that would be useful. Also, do you know what device your cdrom is installed as? (/dev/hdb?) And do you have more than one CD device in your computer?

For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread

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January 8, 2005 12:55 PM

tivoupgrade said:

Sounds like the InstantCake CD didn't get mounted properly. If you can try it again, but this time, BEFORE running the PTVbake-special script, eject the the LBA48 CD and put your old IC CD in, and type "mountcd" -- see if it actually mounts properly. If you can be more specific with any errors you receive, that would be useful. Also, do you know what device your cdrom is installed as? (/dev/hdb?) And do you have more than one CD device in your computer?



:) Third time the charm! (the mountcd did it)

Thanks Up & Running all my hacks in place as before... plus a few new ones! Alot happens when you don't pay attention.

Thanks.... Took awhile to find all the hacks for the new version 3.1.0c2 - (tivoapp hacks) but that's to be expected.

Thanks again. Hopefully I'll get the time to watch the shows I have recorded on my HDDTIVO so I can drop the new replacement drive in ... looks like it will be another day or so however.

Again Thanks again for your help, and What a great upgrade path!

Lou Jacob Avatar
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January 9, 2005 2:46 PM

Tom C. said:

:) Third time the charm! (the mountcd did it)

Thanks Up & Running all my hacks in place as before... plus a few new ones! Alot happens when you don't pay attention.

Thanks.... Took awhile to find all the hacks for the new version 3.1.0c2 - (tivoapp hacks) but that's to be expected.

Thanks again. Hopefully I'll get the time to watch the shows I have recorded on my HDDTIVO so I can drop the new replacement drive in ... looks like it will be another day or so however.

Again Thanks again for your help, and What a great upgrade path!


Cool. Were the instructions correct and did you just forget to do the "mountcd" or did I leave something out? Please let me know so I can make the necessary changes.

For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread

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January 27, 2005 1:06 PM

I just had the same problem but it said in the error message that it could not read image from /dev/hdb.
I solved it by installing another cd drive as primary slave and i put the IC original in that drive and the script worked perfect.
I never had to swap any disks.
It seems the script is set to look at hdb.

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January 28, 2005 8:20 AM

I got the disc TiVo did not boot.

I have the old TurboNet in my series 1 TiVo stand a lone I guess you call it. Gets TV from cable. On the back on my TiVo it says HDR312 and on the PTVupgrade CD I got it has on it HDR312. It worked real good all looked right. I pressed Ctrl-Alt-Delete at the end and truned off the PC. When I put the hard drive in my TiVo just the TiVo icon came on the screen. The same as it does if you don't even have a hard drive in the TiVo. I don't even hear the hard drive clicking sound. I did hear the small start up clicking.

I made a back up of it a long time ago. I used the same PC with mstools 2.0 to restore it. That worked. It looked close to how InstantCake did it.

I know the CD says the same number as the back of my TiVo HDR312 could maybe I of gottin the wrong CD?

It's a 40 gig hard drive. Would I have to have the bigger one? It said something like installing LBA42. Maybe that don't work on a 40 gig hard drive?

I wanted InstantCake because it has all the Enhancements.

Any one know why it will not work?

It looks like it's just restoreing a Image. But I am sure it has the Enhancements on it.

-Raymond Day

Lou Jacob Avatar
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January 28, 2005 8:24 AM

Raymond Day said:

I have the old TurboNet in my series 1 TiVo stand a lone I guess you call it. Gets TV from cable. On the back on my TiVo it says HDR312 and on the PTVupgrade CD I got it has on it HDR312. It worked real good all looked right. I pressed Ctrl-Alt-Delete at the end and truned off the PC. When I put the hard drive in my TiVo just the TiVo icon came on the screen. The same as it does if you don't even have a hard drive in the TiVo. I don't even hear the hard drive clicking sound. I did hear the small start up clicking.

I made a back up of it a long time ago. I used the same PC with mstools 2.0 to restore it. That worked. It looked close to how InstantCake did it.

I know the CD says the same number as the back of my TiVo HDR312 could maybe I of gottin the wrong CD?

It's a 40 gig hard drive. Would I have to have the bigger one? It said something like installing LBA42. Maybe that don't work on a 40 gig hard drive?

I wanted InstantCake because it has all the Enhancements.

Any one know why it will not work?

It looks like it's just restoreing a Image. But I am sure it has the Enhancements on it.

-Raymond Day



Should work fine with a 40GB drive. So what you are saying is that you followed the instructions in the first post of this thread and it still didn't work?

For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread

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January 28, 2005 9:36 AM

Yes I did what it said at the start of this like this:

After I installed my back up and it was working. I redid the InstantCake CD. all looked like it worked good. I could not eject the CD till I turn the power off.

Then I put in the PTVlba48 CD that I burned. It booted and I type what it said. It all looked like it worked good. But it's the same. I put the hard drive in my TiVo and it will not boot. Just stays there with the Big TiVo icon.

-Raymond Day

Lou Jacob Avatar
DVRupgrade
January 28, 2005 9:47 AM

Raymond Day said:

Yes I did what it said at the start of this like this:

After I installed my back up and it was working. I redid the InstantCake CD. all looked like it worked good. I could not eject the CD till I turn the power off.

Then I put in the PTVlba48 CD that I burned. It booted and I type what it said. It all looked like it worked good. But it's the same. I put the hard drive in my TiVo and it will not boot. Just stays there with the Big TiVo icon.

-Raymond Day


Hmm. That is strange. Ok, if you can try one more thing. The image we use is embedded in our CD in the /.images directory - you can try to restore from there with the CD you were able to use for the successful restoration. That will most likely work. Not sure what it is about your PC that doesn't like either of the boot CD's (the one that is part of the IC distro and the LBA48 one) but something about the kernel isn't agreeing with your PC). What is strange is that this workaround seems to work on picky PC's that don't work with the IC distro, but it sounds like there is even a smaller subset of PC's that this still won't work with...

For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread

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January 28, 2005 1:37 PM

I am not sure how to mount the cdrom in mstools. I booted it and put in the InstantCake CD but I don't know the command to get a listing of it.

I was doing this on a old 500 Mhz PC. It was the easy one to get to. But I guess it don't support the bigger drive cernal. So I set up my main PC that is a 3 Ghz one with a Intel D865PERL mother board. I unpluged all the drives and just had the CDrom as Pri. Slave and the hard drive as sec. Master.

I booted the ImstantCake CD on it. But I got this error then.

Just hit and we will begin backing your Instant Cake!

mount: /dev/ is not a block device
/etc/rc.d/rc.S: /cdrom/.live/bin/PTVbake: No such file or directory
/#_


I am going to try and copy that image file on my 10 gig hard drive and then use mstools to restore it like that. I hope that works.

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January 28, 2005 1:57 PM

I copyed 000001 to my 10 gig hard drive and put the drive in the 500 Mhz PC as

hda Fat32 10 gig
hdc TiVo hard drive
hdd CD ROM

It worked real good here are the commands because InstantCake should be real easy just set up your drives the same way and this is just how it went with mine.

/# mkdir /mnt/dos
/# mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos
/# cd /mnt/dos
/mnt/dos# ls
000001*
/mnt/dos# mfsrestore -i /mnt/dos/000001 /dev/hdc
Starting restore
Uncompressed backup size: 816 megabytes
Restoring 816 or 816 megabytes (100.00%) (76.90% compression)
Cleaning up restore. Please wait a moment.
Restore done!
/mnt/dos# mfsadd -x /dev/hdc
Current estimated standalone size: 15 hours
Adding pair /dev/hdc12-/dev/hdc13...
New estimated standalone size: 39 hours (24 more)
Done! Estimated standalone gain: 24 hours
/mnt/dos# poweroff


I put the hard drive back in my TiVo and it booted!

With a very nice blue PTVupgrade :) Blue image

I went in the setup and put in ,#401 and it called with the Ethernet!

All is working good. I have to now test out how it works by going to it's IP.

Thank you.

I guess you should try and test if the PC will work with InstantCake Linux you have. I guess that's why mine did not work. I guess I needed a not to old or not to new PC to do it in. The old one did not work and the new one did not work. At lest with the InstantCake install Linux.

-Raymond Day

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January 29, 2005 3:54 AM

It looks like my newer PC did not work because it has serial ata ports. I even upluged the hard drive from the serial ata port. Looks like I would of had to go in my BIOS to turn off the serial ata port. I think InstantCake would of worked then.

I have another TiVo I like to install InstantCake. I will try the PC with serial ata and turn it off in BIOS to see how it works. This TiVo I put hacks in my self and it was working real good for maybe a month. But now I can't FTP, Telnet, TiVo web, TyStudio or Caller ID. I have Caller ID sending over Ethernet from a Linux server. My best guess is it was a little update TiVo did to it or switch to it's other boot partition. This was about 1/2 a year ago. I just did not want to go though hacking it all again. But InstantCake should make it easy. I think I did back it up not sure were. I will have not name the back ups better next time. Any way it did not last. So I hope InstantCake will work on it good. That TiVo is still working real good but with no hacks working.

In the BIOS I could not find any thing that said to "Disable SATA Ports" I looked on google. You have to find in the BIOS "legacy ATA mode" or like on my intel D865PERL board it just has "legacy" It was on "Enhanced" just switch it to "legacy" and it disables the SATA ports.

Wile I was looking on google I found this "many Linux installers' kernels don't yet support many Serial ATA chipsets." This why I think InstantCake will not work with some motheboards. The Linux it has will not support SATA ports. It don't need to no TiVo uses them but to run InstantCake on a PC with them it will mess up and not install right. Just trun on Legacy mode in the BIOS and this should fix it.

All the post talking about it here not working I think this is why!

All so I think if you use a older PC to do this on it will not support the LBA48 so it will not wright the image right to the hard drive. All will look right but it will not boot in the TiVo.

I guess the best is use a newer PC and turn on "Legacy" so the Serial ATA is disabled.

-Raymond Day

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Lou Jacob Avatar
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March 9, 2005 9:40 AM

smaster44 said:

The "workaround" worked for me, since before I was just stuck at the "Welcome, Powering up..." message.

Anyway, after doing the "workaround" it didnt seem that the "icing" had been applied. How do I get the "icing" applied by hand or after the "workaround"?


Part 3, where you do the "tivoflash" is the same as the "icing" step.

For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread

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March 26, 2005 5:52 PM

CD won't boot completely

I created the PVTlba48 CD. It boots, but then stops at:

raw1394: /dev/raw1394 device initialized

I've tried burning the CD twice and both times had the same result.

Any ideas?

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April 27, 2005 7:57 PM

powering up loop

tried instant cake, cdrom on primary as slave,
drive on secondary as master.
Have a hughes gxcebot got stuck at "welcome. powering up"

tried instructions here, same config as above,
got stuck at "welcome. powering up"

wondering how one should proceed from here.

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April 27, 2005 8:03 PM

seems fixed now

I was checking out the other forums and someone mentioned using a new ide cable, so I thought I would try taking of the jumper from the drive and trying that. Now the drive seems to be working well. As I type it is trying to acquire satellite information.

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May 15, 2005 3:18 PM

InstantCake for Series 1 - Initial Hang at Welcome

I have a Philips Series 1 212 Unit and I am replacing the original drive. I purchased InstantCake, downloaded the ISO file, created a Bootable CD with Nero from the ISO image file. I am using an XP 250GHz Athlon platform and had problems with the boot up of the formatted 60Gb Western Digital HDD in my Philips Series 1 machine. The machine would not boot up the reimaged HDD, and would hang at the initial welcome screen (I assume reading only the BIOS on the motherboard).

Your fix worked perfectly. Using the LBA48 separate disc, I booted as directed, then used InstantCake to rebuild the HDD. This time the boot went perfectly.

Thank you so much for all the help! This is a quality product, supported by a dedicated vendor, and has a great forum.

Best regards,

Allan

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May 25, 2005 4:48 PM

Powering up look

Well I followed the instructions for the T60 and I am using the instabake t60 image, but my T60 is stuck in the loop.

I am using a new Drive since the orginal died. No errors or problems with the process just the power up loop. Any thing else to try?

Lou Jacob Avatar
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May 26, 2005 11:10 AM

aktiveradio said:

Well I followed the instructions for the T60 and I am using the instabake t60 image, but my T60 is stuck in the loop.

I am using a new Drive since the orginal died. No errors or problems with the process just the power up loop. Any thing else to try?


When the previous drive failed, what were the symptoms? The situation discussed in this thread is more oriented to "stuck at welcome, powering up..." if your unit is in a reboot loop, it could be a different problem, and also could be a problem with the unit, itself, not just the drive. How certain are you that there is nothing wrong with the unit?

For answers to commonly asked questions, please refer to the
InstantCake Instructions and Release Notes,
Official InstantCake Discussion Thread, and the
Official PTVnet Discussion Thread

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May 26, 2005 11:18 AM

The old system was just locking up, it was a HD problem I check the Drive and it had errors.

I was able to get the system past the powering up screen using my InstaBake CD and not doing any of the section 3, but now I have the wong Kernal so I only have 35 hours on my 250GB Drive.

Seems like the the Kernal replace or the TivoFlash couse the problem.

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May 31, 2005 10:13 AM

InstantCake worked for me on a HDR612

Restored a Phillips HDR612 with a TurboNet card using InstantCake and his fix post. Built the image on a Samsung 160 GB drive, really quiet.

The TiVo was giving me the Green Screen of Death and it would not rebuilt itself. I have done the mods before with the Hinsdale files, but this was a whole lot easier.

Steve

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